Demolitionforum.com Forums  

Register Now! Demolition Tool Store - Demolition Gallery - Classifieds - Advertising Info - Forum Guidelines

Welcome to Demolition Forum, the only Online Source for Demolition News and Discussion.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access. By joining our free community you will have access to reading the latest in Industry News, Read and learn from the experts, Upload your own demolition photos to your photo album, read and learn from the experts, and many other special features.

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.


Go Back   Demolitionforum.com Forums > DEMOLITION TOPICS > Office & Business

Office & Business It’s all business here! License requirements, permits, hiring policies, employee problems, marketing and advertising, business development, computer hardware and software, websites, and more.


Why not Register? or Log in to remove these ads
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 05-26-2006, 07:31 AM
James's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kent, WA.
Posts: 4,233
Send a message via AIM to James Send a message via MSN to James
Default Business Plans

I'm currently in the process of re-writing a business plan. So I thought I would ask,

First, how many of you wrote a business plan when you started out?


Second, did you use any software or templates to help out or did you start from scratch?
__________________
Still just visiting? Come say Hello!
We have some open advertising spots available
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links

Why not Register? or Log in to remove these ads
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 05-26-2006, 08:27 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 576
Default

Initially, I used a couple of books that I checked out of the library. I basically wrote it from scratch with suggestions that I found in the book.
I had it reviewed by a friend of mine who is a VP for Commercial Lending at a local bank. She made some changes and it worked like a champ. A funny thing happened in that she scaled back my financial projections because she said bankers ae so used to seeing 3-4% margins that they wouldn't believe anything higher.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 05-26-2006, 08:51 AM
demobud's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 687
Default

Robert, I started using the same resources as you. I also ran my pro-forma by a friend who is a commercial lender, and he had the same reaction. He thought a 10% margin was unrealistic!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 05-26-2006, 02:10 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 576
Default

A business plan for a demolition business has to read like a research report. It has to educate. Bankers are so used to dealing with widget manufacturers. They want to see the cost of the product is x and we can sell it for y. Demo dosen't work that way.
I am still scratching my head about the difference between leasing and owning equipment. I have got as bunch of my friends in this business that swear that leasing equipment is the way to go and other people swear by purchasing the same equipment.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 05-27-2006, 07:29 AM
demobud's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 687
Default

I prefer to own the equipment personally(through a holding company) and lease it to the company. That keeps my cash flow alive.
My banker was astounded at some of the profits I had seen in the past; he was wondering why his other client coulnd't do it (and this guy has an MBA?!?). It's definitely not something you learn in business school.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 05-30-2006, 06:23 AM
James's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kent, WA.
Posts: 4,233
Send a message via AIM to James Send a message via MSN to James
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by demobud
I prefer to own the equipment personally(through a holding company) and lease it to the company. That keeps my cash flow alive.
I worked for a company that did something similar to that.

They had another company that owned the equipment and rented it to the company. This also helps when doing change orders on government projects that require the use of "The Rental Blue Book", which in my opinion understates the actual own/rental cost, you can use invoices for the secondary company as actual “cost” of the rented equipment and use them on your change orders.

Plus, what this also does is protect the demolition side if anything went sideways, you will still have your equipment.
__________________
Still just visiting? Come say Hello!
We have some open advertising spots available
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links

Why not Register? or Log in to remove these ads
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump


Forum Sponsors



Partners
Dexpan Silent Demo
Diamond Tools SuperCenter
High Reach Demo
Scrap Metal Prices
EnviroBidNet
Heavy Equipment Forums
Lawn Cafe
Phillyblast
Excavator Trader
Home Theater Forum

Advertising Partner


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0
© 2005-2008 DemolitionForum - All Rights Reserved